# Elasto Mania World (wild) Total Times Top-50 (2024-04-29) 1. Spef 34:43,19 (verified) 2. Zweq 34:56,01 (trusted source) 3. Kazan 34:58,45 (wild) (trusted source: 34:59,09) 4. Bjenn 35:15,34 (wild) (trusted source [Bjorn]: 35:15,62) 5. John 35:33,46 (trusted source) 6. Tm 35:40,03 (verified) 7. Madness 35:46,86 (trusted source) 8. Mielz 35:47,04 (trusted srouce) 9. talli 35:49,40 (trusted source) 10. Raven 36:12,34 (wild) (trusted source: 36:26,19) 11. GRob 36:27:62 (wild) (verified: 36:55,25) 12. hehe 36:33,66 (verified) 13. finman 36:36,07 (trusted source) 14. TorInge 36:38,93 (trusted source) 15. proDigy 36:41,26 (wild) (trusted source: 36:46,32) 16. Morgan 36:51,46 (wild) (trusted source: 36:51,73) 17. Zero 36:52,41 (verified) 18. Sla 36:54,18 (wild) (n/a) 19. adi 36:54,21 (wild) (trusted source: 36:54,72) 20. iltsu 36:54,22 (verified) 21. Lukazz 36:58,86 (wild) (verified: 36:58,90) 22. Cap 37:02,11 (wild) (trusted source: 37:03,74) 23. Kowal 37:03,04 (wild) (trusted source: 37:15,34) 24. Ramzi 37:13,43 (wild) (trusted source: 38:44,78) 25. Luther 37:24,11 (wild) (trusted source: 37:27,06) 26. Mika 37:24,47 (wild) (trusted source: 38:11,13) 27. Thor 37:25,39 (wild) (n/a) 28. Kiiwi 37:29,30 (trusted source) 29. Leek 37:33,19 (trusted source) 30. AKB 37:40,41 (wild) (verified: 40:11,79) 31. Labs 37:42,80 (trusted source) 32. xp 37:46,37 (wild) (trusted source: 37:47,81) 33. Memphis 37:47,70 (wild) (trusted source: 37:48,21) 34. anpdad 37:49,94 (wild) (trusted source: 38:00,97) 35. Mira 37:50,39 (verified) 36. Kejebra 37:51,63 (wild) (verified: 38:20,18) (note: nick Thundr- is rumoured to be a same person) 37. jaytea 37:52,25 (wild) (verified: 49:16,38) 38. Kulisty 37:53,63 (wild) (verified: 37:56,58) (note: nick babyl in "Elma Stats" has exact same TT from exact same country [PL]) 39. Quinn 37:55,74 (trusted source) 40. Kuper 37:56,29 (trusted source) 41. axxu 37:56,74 (wild) (trusted source: 37:56,78) 42. York 37:56,82 (wild) (trusted source: 38:21,22) 43. Arzenik 37:58,07 (verified) 44. OtorK 37:58,39 (wild) (trusted source: 37:58,82) 45. Jamppa 37:58,93 (trusted source) 46. roope 37:59,42 (trusted source) 47. BoneLESS 38:05,33 (trusted source) 48. jblaze 38:12,39 (wild) (verified: 38:12,56) 49. igge 38:14,30 (wild) (n/a) 50. mr 38:15,33 (trusted source) Bonus: 51. milagros 38:20,43 (wild) (trusted source: 38:23,24) 52. trew 38:21,01 (trusted source) 53. Honza 38:21,43 (wild) (trusted source: 38:23,86) 54. Pab 38:22,09 (wild) (trusted source: 38:22,22) 55. Markku 38:24,68 (trusted source) 56. EMZ 38:25,90 (wild) (trusted source: 38:51,98) (note: nick DaemoN is rumoured to be a same person) 57. jxman 38:26,23 (wild) (n/a) 58. Hosp 38:25,84 (wild) (verified: 38:27,41) 59. Grace 38:30,96 (wild) (trusted source: 38:38,03) 60. zaraptor 38:31,01 (wild) (trusted source: 39:12,65) (note: nick YEAHS in "Elma Stats") ## Sources - https://elma.online/levels/packs/Int/total-times - https://stats.sshoyer.net/tts.php - ## Reliability Trust levels: 1) "Verified": All records have been driven in EOL. The server has verified the playing is authentic. The check has been exploited by DEATH in 2015 but the method is not public. 2) "Trusted source": All records driven either in EOL or in one of the trusted sources (including only "Moposite Records" in 2024-04-29). State.dats and occasional replays were manually checked. 3) "Wild": Currently all the other sources are labeled as wild except EOL and Moposite (2024-04-29). For example, "Elma Stats" allows stats.txt files which can't be verified. Overall the data reliability in the TT top-50 is high, somewhere close to 95 % or higher because most of the players don't want to cheat no matter what. In addition most of the "wild" times are backed by almost same verified or trusted time. The differencens are usually because of the record systems have been evolved and accidental offline playing happened. ## Discussion Status of Elasto Mania Total times (2024-04-29): - "Elma Online" contains 910 total times [1]. 806 under 1h. - "Elma Stats" contains 2166 total times. 1385 under 1h. - "Elma Online" includes times driven in EOL (= verified times) and "Moposite Records" database (= based on trust, mostly). - "Elma Stats" is based only on trust. - Some players have better total times in "Elma Online", some in "Elma Stats". - "Elasto Mania Club" contains 1 , "Mopolauta" 2, "Elma Stats (old) (offline)" 6 and "Elmasite (offline)" 3 better total times which are not included in "Elma Online" or "Elma Stats" [2]. - Arzenik, Labs and Markku are working on a project to insert all TTs from all sources known to EOL database ("Elma Online"). - Currently there is no combined list of all total times from all known sources (after pawq stopped to update the combined list - Thanks to him to do the big work for over a decade!) Ideal solution to get the combined list ASAP [3]: 1. Add a feature to The Script [4] to crawl data from "Elma Stats" also. 2. Add a feature to The Script to include data from a constant (for those 12 total times which are better in other sources). 3. Combine all data, sort and display in one big list where the source is visible too. 4. Divide sources to three levels of trust: verified (EOL), trusted source (Moposite etc. where state.dat was required and random tests were taken) and everything (when times can be easily cheated by changing the txt file like in "Elma Stats"). 5. Add radio buttons to The Script to change the trust level. 6. Make a cronjob to fetch the html every Monday and save it as TT-list-{trust_level}-{date}.html [1]: Current system doesn't allow taking a full page screenshot (because of technical reasons). [2]: Source: viewtopic.php?p=163344#p163344 [3]: Before "Elma Online" contains all data and supports a printable format. [4]: https://moposite.com/x/tt.html